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Morganna said:

PVW said:

I know no one ever promised the world was anything approaching just, but it's still disappointing for what it says about our country and humanity in general that this is even a close election.

Perhaps it's the result of having only two Parties to choose from. I doubt everyone falls in line on either of their platforms. Many people who vote on economic issues do not agree on reproductive rights. Immigration will rank higher among those living in border states, but they may have concerns about climate change.

When Trump ran in the last two elections, I found people who voted for Trump but were for a woman's right to choose. Some knew little about the issue.

Do I think a third Party would solve anything? Perhaps it's time is nearing. I am definitely Green Party material but it has been light years since I've flirted with third Party voting.

I'm not offering this as anything other than a bit of comfort that not all of those willing to continue to vote Republican buy into the whole platform. Add to that where does one find forums, preferably in person, where serious, polite exchanges can occur that could influence voters?

I certainly understand that not all 70 million+ Trump voters are on board with all his promises and so-called policies.

But it is depressing that his fascism, misogyny, racism, appeals to violence, lying, swindling, narcissism, and the entire laundry list of his expansive awfulness isn't a deal breaker for more voters. The fact that anyone would vote for this man at all is depressing, but the fact that 45% of voters will choose him is downright horrifying.

Belated follow-up with a happy ending: I did wind up finding a roommate through this site in the end. Sometimes local is best! Thanks all.

For anyone else who is looking, although craigslist does get responses, I had the best "almosts" through two sites - spareroom.com and roomies.com. (Roommates.com was not worth the $, and you can do very little with a free account.)

It was an enormous amount of time, effort and cost. I think that First Nights in general were victims of their own success. Performers found they could charge top dollar for NYE, and they did, pricing smaller FNs out of contention. 

I was on the Maplewood South Orange board for many years--secretary, entertainment chair, president... The amount of time it took was ridiculous. We ended in January and started in February. First, monthly meetings of the board (and meetings of the committees more often); then more as the date drew closer. It was unsustainable. Its time had come. 

There was an attempt to revive it about 10(?) years ago, but it didn't go anywhere because without public funding--which is for the following year--it couldn't succeed.

It was great while it lasted though. A lot of work, but also a lot of fun.

I know no one ever promised the world was anything approaching just, but it's still disappointing for what it says about our country and humanity in general that this is even a close election.

jeffl said:

It's all well and good to criticize polls and ignore them, and to say that oddsmakers don't predict outcomes, but I'd rather the polls showed Harris with a lead and the oddsmakers gave her the better odds of winning.  If both of those things were true, it would be more likely she's going to win in November.  It's all just probabilities and statistics.  Sure, polls and oddsmakers can be wrong, but most times they aren't.  If Harris were polling 3 points ahead of Trump in PA, I would be a hell of a lot happier.

agreed. I kind of think Joe Biden should be spending every weekend in Pennsylvania at all kinds of small community gatherings. And as I’ve said before, they need to be spending a ton of money to get people registered and get them out to vote. Driving voters, especially in the large cities is a huge factor in winning the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. 

Here's a bird I painted a few years ago. 

**** and Liz Cheney, Cassidy Hutchinson, Kinzinger, These are modern American Heroes. Let us hope their efforts help us keep our democracy! 

bub said:

Who are the few at the top of your list?

Sorry, I was away from MOL for a couple of days. We did the honk parade to start it off. My son played the trombone. Everybody was so nice to him. It was his first time doing it and learning a song or two on the fly. From 1 to 2 we weren't sure who we we were going to listen to, but heard Laredo & Friends as we were walking along. The host Bernice was so hospitable, and has a lovely voice. My daughter and her friend walked over to Lady Lychee and they are now her groupies.  At 2 my daughter wanted to see Mia Soleil Sanchez and I wanted to see DC & The Desperados (the lead singer is my neighbor), so we split up. The bigger issue was at 3. There were 4 bands I wanted to see - Sarah Hodd & The Drive, Honest Wagner, Big Train and sasso. We watched Sarah Hodd briefly, then headed to see sasso. Those are some talented young adults. Such a great event!  

Well JD should keep on talking, because he’s making Sarah Palin look like a genius…trump really does pick the best and brightest doesn’t he?

DaveSchmidt said:

I’m not only a spoilsport, but a fortnight late spoilsport.

Thank you DaveSchmidt! The picture drew me back. I paint birds and wildlife and it was so clear the brown and black area was feathered. I forgot to check on any response to my argument!